Comments on: For a practice of spirituality in the present http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/for-a-practice-of-spirituality-in-the-present/ Ethics and the process of perfection Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:23:56 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Eileen http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/for-a-practice-of-spirituality-in-the-present/comment-page-1/#comment-2601 Eileen Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:42:24 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=195#comment-2601 I, too, would like to thank Dr. Bahram Elahi for posting this article. I am very glad that we humans are out of the "cult of the past". Thank goodness that the words for authentic spirituality are simple and direct. I hope that all human beings will receive help from the Divine to learn the lessons and put them into practice correctly, to attain His satisfaction. I, too, would like to thank Dr. Bahram Elahi for posting this article. I am very glad that we humans are out of the “cult of the past”. Thank goodness that the words for authentic spirituality are simple and direct. I hope that all human beings will receive help from the Divine to learn the lessons and put them into practice correctly, to attain His satisfaction.

]]> By: Ali Tinat(Zoghi). http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/for-a-practice-of-spirituality-in-the-present/comment-page-1/#comment-217 Ali Tinat(Zoghi). Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:31:05 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=195#comment-217 P.S. For better understanding of the term "category–mistake" please check Gilbert Ryle's book <em>The Concept of Mind,</em> chapter 1, section 2. P.S. For better understanding of the term “category–mistake” please check Gilbert Ryle’s book The Concept of Mind, chapter 1, section 2.

]]> By: Ali Tinat(Zoghi). http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/for-a-practice-of-spirituality-in-the-present/comment-page-1/#comment-216 Ali Tinat(Zoghi). Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:17:49 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=195#comment-216 While fully agreeing with Zulu's perception of "The Sense Of truth" I also like to add the following: I. I do not like to make the famous Category mistake of the Cartesian Philosophers—dualism of mind–body(Ghost In The Machine division of Spirit and body)—and therefore do not divide our senses into physical and spiritual but rather an extension of the same senses that we all possess and use regardless of being aware of them fully or not. II. "The Sense Of truth" to me also extends to our constant craving we all have in terms of judging, weighing, reasoning, measuring, evaluating, plus sensing everything we come across at some level, especially when our self interest is concerned, and in order to find its truth in terms of form and format. Another word for this is evaluation. It is for this very same reason that we also—consciously or subconsciously—are often confronted with a nagging inner feeling that what we consider to be truth is but a part and parcel of the actual life forms that is surrounding us. The more we find out about such life forms—be it a Bee or a plant—the more its truth is revealed to us. In short, the more we investigate and find out about an entity, the more its wonders are revealed to us due to the growth of our understanding. This is due to the expansion of our ten senses—for the sake of understanding let me refer to this as physical–spiritual—that we now have the exact perception to better fathom and see the truth within a particular item on the menu of our understanding of the truth. Spirituality, as a science of our present time, and according to the guidelines of Ostad Elahi, is an step by step formula based on the examination of the self, one's motives, intentions, and all within the very frameworks of our modern daily life. It is by knowing the truth about one's true self that one can come to the ultimate truth—one's source. While fully agreeing with Zulu’s perception of “The Sense Of truth” I also like to add the following:
I. I do not like to make the famous Category mistake of the Cartesian Philosophers—dualism of mind–body(Ghost In The Machine division of Spirit and body)—and therefore do not divide our senses into physical and spiritual but rather an extension of the same senses that we all possess and use regardless of being aware of them fully or not.

II. “The Sense Of truth” to me also extends to our constant craving we all have in terms of judging, weighing, reasoning, measuring, evaluating, plus sensing everything we come across at some level, especially when our self interest is concerned, and in order to find its truth in terms of form and format. Another word for this is evaluation. It is for this very same reason that we also—consciously or subconsciously—are often confronted with a nagging inner feeling that what we consider to be truth is but a part and parcel of the actual life forms that is surrounding us. The more we find out about such life forms—be it a Bee or a plant—the more its truth is revealed to us. In short, the more we investigate and find out about an entity, the more its wonders are revealed to us due to the growth of our understanding. This is due to the expansion of our ten senses—for the sake of understanding let me refer to this as physical–spiritual—that we now have the exact perception to better fathom and see the truth within a particular item on the menu of our understanding of the truth.
Spirituality, as a science of our present time, and according to the guidelines of Ostad Elahi, is an step by step formula based on the examination of the self, one’s motives, intentions, and all within the very frameworks of our modern daily life. It is by knowing the truth about one’s true self that one can come to the ultimate truth—one’s source.

]]> By: Zulu http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/for-a-practice-of-spirituality-in-the-present/comment-page-1/#comment-124 Zulu Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:11:21 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=195#comment-124 My understanding is that similar to our physical senses we also have spiritual senses which belong to the celestial soul. For instance, some places that were witnessed to negative or tragic events radiate a negative energy that a person with a certain level of sensitivity can feel. Such person usually feels uncomfortable in these places without knowing the reason behind it. Or the Disciples of Jesus felt the manifestation of the Source in him. I bet if one of them was alive and present and if we could ask how he recognized the Truth in Jesus, he would simple say: I could clearly “see” the Divine in him! Truth is not seen by the eye of the head, but with the eye of the soul… “The sense of truth” reminds me of the book “Flatland” by Edwin Abbot; which in it a Square was challenged to understand the world of 3-dimension! What makes it hard though, is that unlike our physical senses, we need to develop our spiritual senses. My understanding is that similar to our physical senses we also have spiritual senses which belong to the celestial soul. For instance, some places that were witnessed to negative or tragic events radiate a negative energy that a person with a certain level of sensitivity can feel. Such person usually feels uncomfortable in these places without knowing the reason behind it. Or the Disciples of Jesus felt the manifestation of the Source in him. I bet if one of them was alive and present and if we could ask how he recognized the Truth in Jesus, he would simple say: I could clearly “see” the Divine in him! Truth is not seen by the eye of the head, but with the eye of the soul…

“The sense of truth” reminds me of the book “Flatland” by Edwin Abbot; which in it a Square was challenged to understand the world of 3-dimension!

What makes it hard though, is that unlike our physical senses, we need to develop our spiritual senses.

]]> By: John Locke http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/for-a-practice-of-spirituality-in-the-present/comment-page-1/#comment-113 John Locke Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:52:28 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=195#comment-113 I do have one question, in this article, the author says: "Their sense of truth will be awakened and will enable them to feel truth in the spiritual domain, beyond rhetoric and theatrics". I'm curious to understand what it exactly meant by "the sense of truth" and how does one go about awakening it. I'm curious to learn what others reading the article think about this. Also, thanks for sharing this with us interested individuals. I do have one question, in this article, the author says: “Their sense of truth will be awakened and will enable them to feel truth in the spiritual domain, beyond rhetoric and theatrics”. I’m curious to understand what it exactly meant by “the sense of truth” and how does one go about awakening it. I’m curious to learn what others reading the article think about this. Also, thanks for sharing this with us interested individuals.

]]> By: Zulu http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/for-a-practice-of-spirituality-in-the-present/comment-page-1/#comment-103 Zulu Sat, 31 Oct 2009 06:45:35 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=195#comment-103 Sometimes I just want to ask: doesn't God expect too much from humankind? God created us as imperfect beings. We do have an intellect but the intellect is saturated with ego and we all know how ego alters our judgments. But the fact is, we don’t really understand much and most of the time our intellect acts against comprehending spiritual matters. And then, in addition to all these internal obstacles we are living in an ego-ridden world; a world that constantly reinforces our imperious self. We are bombarded with unethical and anti-divine values. And yet, we are so proud of our accomplishments in science and technology. Even science, for many, seems to have to stand against spirituality. In other words, we seem to lack the metrics and measures in science today to discuss spirituality. Moreover, scientists who try to extend the scientific research into the spiritual realm are often not taken as seriously. It almost seems as though God hides the truth like a gem amongst a bunch of invaluable but eye-catching stones and then expects humankind to dig in and find it! I just want to plead with God and say please cast a glance at us helpless humankind and make the truth a little more vivid for us to see! Sometimes I just want to ask: doesn’t God expect too much from humankind? God created us as imperfect beings. We do have an intellect but the intellect is saturated with ego and we all know how ego alters our judgments. But the fact is, we don’t really understand much and most of the time our intellect acts against comprehending spiritual matters. And then, in addition to all these internal obstacles we are living in an ego-ridden world; a world that constantly reinforces our imperious self. We are bombarded with unethical and anti-divine values. And yet, we are so proud of our accomplishments in science and technology. Even science, for many, seems to have to stand against spirituality. In other words, we seem to lack the metrics and measures in science today to discuss spirituality. Moreover, scientists who try to extend the scientific research into the spiritual realm are often not taken as seriously.
It almost seems as though God hides the truth like a gem amongst a bunch of invaluable but eye-catching stones and then expects humankind to dig in and find it! I just want to plead with God and say please cast a glance at us helpless humankind and make the truth a little more vivid for us to see!

]]> By: Paolo http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/for-a-practice-of-spirituality-in-the-present/comment-page-1/#comment-98 Paolo Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:33:59 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=195#comment-98 This key sentence is very touching: in every enterprise, humankind has always looked to the future and will continue to do so, except where religion and spirituality are concerned"- this is one of the reasons why many stop searching for more. This article encourages us to go and discover what spirituality means, today, for a human being in the twenty first century. Dr. Bahram Elahi truly understands how to awaken an individual's "metaphysical" curiosity. This key sentence is very touching: in every enterprise, humankind has always looked to the future and will continue to do so, except where religion and spirituality are concerned”- this is one of the reasons why many stop searching for more. This article encourages us to go and discover what spirituality means, today, for a human being in the twenty first century. Dr. Bahram Elahi truly understands how to awaken an individual’s “metaphysical” curiosity.

]]> By: Pseudo http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/for-a-practice-of-spirituality-in-the-present/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Pseudo Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:17:05 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=195#comment-87 I wanted to thank e-ostadelahi and associates for posting this article written by Dr. Bahram Elahi. It was touching and every word written was very true and heart warming. Thank you. I wanted to thank e-ostadelahi and associates for posting this article written by Dr. Bahram Elahi. It was touching and every word written was very true and heart warming. Thank you.

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