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		<description>Virtue Ethics and the ‘medicine of the spirit’

In the article “Virtue ethics and the ‘medicine of the spirit’” author Capucine Lebreton delves into the causes and correlation between what she defines to be the ‘medicine of the spirit’, virtue ethics and consequentialism and deontological ethics. Lebreton then make a conclusion on how proper maintenance of the body is helpful in achieving whichever school of thought one chooses for acting virtuous.

To give a brief overview of these schools of moral thought, virtue ethics is based on the classical Greek philosophers, Aristotle &amp; Plato. The idea behind virtue ethics is to act on a virtue, every day, little by little, until that virtue becomes second nature to you. What is considered a virtue, or moral act is to be defined. Thus if you wish to become a generous person, practice giving a little every day, and at the end of your life it will have become part of your nature. According to Consequentialism (or utilitarianism), an act is morally pious, if it seeks to have the best possible outcome on society as a whole. Thus, a utilitarianist would see what would be the most beneficial outcome to society as a whole as the primary reasoning behind. For example, if I am thinking about stealing a candy bar from a store, even though it would give me great pleasure in not having to pay for it, I realize that the effects detrimental effects in society are more severe than then pleasures I gain from this action and decide to not steal. Lastly, we have deontological ethics, a set of rules we have to subscribe to, like the Ten Commandments.  I act piously if I obey these rules and breaking these rules is the same as acting morally wrong. The source of these rules is also to be determined (Divine Command Theory, Kantian Ethics).

Delving a bit deeper, adhering to virtue ethics consists primarily of two tasks. 1) Identify what is a virtue and 2) find the best way to develop it. Here, Lebreton makes a very interesting claim that Virtue Ethics is a precursor to the other approaches. Meaning which-ever morality you prescribe to, command-theory or utilitarianism, you will need to practice your version of what is morally right. In the case of consequentialism one could see how the calculation process prior to your actions should become second nature and in case of moral rules (deontology) how one needs to go through the list and see if one’s actions break the rules or not. Thus the answer to question 1) posed earlier is an open ended question based on your interpretation of morality.

The answer to question 2) brings us to the ’medicine of the spirit’. Imagine we have decided what our definition of morality is. Keeping in mind that we have to nurture and develop it to become second nature, what is the best way to achieve this? Here Lebreton introduces us to the discoveries and thoughts of 18th century French medical ethics authors, such as Le Camus. The idea behind the medical scientists and philosophers’ discoveries is that our environment (climate, food, sleep pattern, movement) affect how we view our surroundings. Thus, being in the optimal state would expedite our ability to make our virtues second nature. To give an idea, these authors go into great detail on what kind food expedites what kind of mood. Le Camus then proposes a regimen in life that favors sweet and joyful passions and shuns violent and sad ones. This would mean that by being in the right physical state (joyful passions) we optimize our ability to acquire virtues based on our definition of what is right. Lebreton hypothesis is that medicine of the mind is the same precursor (maybe even necessary condition) to virtue ethics that virtue ethics is to deontological or utilitarian ethics.

Lebreton’s hypothesis is most certainly thought provoking, and it is incredibly hard to argue that the right state of mind is important to acquire any sort of habit, skill, or knowledge. However, it does leave out two important cases. 1) Some ethics require us to act morally virtuous regardless of our state of mind. Thus I should not try to act virtuous only when I feel like doing so. Sometimes it is required to act morally virtuous even when one is hungry or had food that causes sad emotions. As a matter of fact, unless one becomes virtuous in all situations of life, it is not a second nature, rather a fragile equilibrium. One bad state of mind and one’s virtues are out the door. It is true that to start off, a conducive physical state is optimal, but after the initial stages, some discomfort becomes necessary to ensure one’s growth.

The second problem with the ‘medicine of the spirit’ is the acquisition of these optimal states. Le Camus’ claims on the food-&gt;inner state link are somewhat dubious in nature, but let’s assume that there is a link. One could state that in this day and age, there are certain pharmaceuticals that will produce the desires state that Le Camus first proposed. Le Camus dealt with known ‘inner-state-changing’ stimuli of his time, environment, food, sleep &amp; movement. Today we could add more items to this list. What if there is a drug X that can get us in this optimal state? Is it therefore desirable to do so?  100 years from now, this list will be even longer than it is now. We might be able to switch certain genes on/off to produce any state including our optimal virtue state. Where does that leave us? Should we pursue these drugs today, these gene modifications 100 years from now to learn to be virtuous? One could argue that if it is medically safe, then why not? But this issue is ignored by Lebreton at this point in time.

Lebreton’s article is immensely informational, from the idea of scientific use of passions to the virtuous circle to the ‘medicine of the spirit’ itself . One can even see how the habit-acquiring nature virtue ethics serves as the precursor of any other ethical school of thought. But there are some serious holes in the idea that the perfect inner state is necessarily beneficial to habit acquisition. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virtue Ethics and the ‘medicine of the spirit’</p>
<p>In the article “Virtue ethics and the ‘medicine of the spirit’” author Capucine Lebreton delves into the causes and correlation between what she defines to be the ‘medicine of the spirit’, virtue ethics and consequentialism and deontological ethics. Lebreton then make a conclusion on how proper maintenance of the body is helpful in achieving whichever school of thought one chooses for acting virtuous.</p>
<p>To give a brief overview of these schools of moral thought, virtue ethics is based on the classical Greek philosophers, Aristotle &amp; Plato. The idea behind virtue ethics is to act on a virtue, every day, little by little, until that virtue becomes second nature to you. What is considered a virtue, or moral act is to be defined. Thus if you wish to become a generous person, practice giving a little every day, and at the end of your life it will have become part of your nature. According to Consequentialism (or utilitarianism), an act is morally pious, if it seeks to have the best possible outcome on society as a whole. Thus, a utilitarianist would see what would be the most beneficial outcome to society as a whole as the primary reasoning behind. For example, if I am thinking about stealing a candy bar from a store, even though it would give me great pleasure in not having to pay for it, I realize that the effects detrimental effects in society are more severe than then pleasures I gain from this action and decide to not steal. Lastly, we have deontological ethics, a set of rules we have to subscribe to, like the Ten Commandments.  I act piously if I obey these rules and breaking these rules is the same as acting morally wrong. The source of these rules is also to be determined (Divine Command Theory, Kantian Ethics).</p>
<p>Delving a bit deeper, adhering to virtue ethics consists primarily of two tasks. 1) Identify what is a virtue and 2) find the best way to develop it. Here, Lebreton makes a very interesting claim that Virtue Ethics is a precursor to the other approaches. Meaning which-ever morality you prescribe to, command-theory or utilitarianism, you will need to practice your version of what is morally right. In the case of consequentialism one could see how the calculation process prior to your actions should become second nature and in case of moral rules (deontology) how one needs to go through the list and see if one’s actions break the rules or not. Thus the answer to question 1) posed earlier is an open ended question based on your interpretation of morality.</p>
<p>The answer to question 2) brings us to the ’medicine of the spirit’. Imagine we have decided what our definition of morality is. Keeping in mind that we have to nurture and develop it to become second nature, what is the best way to achieve this? Here Lebreton introduces us to the discoveries and thoughts of 18th century French medical ethics authors, such as Le Camus. The idea behind the medical scientists and philosophers’ discoveries is that our environment (climate, food, sleep pattern, movement) affect how we view our surroundings. Thus, being in the optimal state would expedite our ability to make our virtues second nature. To give an idea, these authors go into great detail on what kind food expedites what kind of mood. Le Camus then proposes a regimen in life that favors sweet and joyful passions and shuns violent and sad ones. This would mean that by being in the right physical state (joyful passions) we optimize our ability to acquire virtues based on our definition of what is right. Lebreton hypothesis is that medicine of the mind is the same precursor (maybe even necessary condition) to virtue ethics that virtue ethics is to deontological or utilitarian ethics.</p>
<p>Lebreton’s hypothesis is most certainly thought provoking, and it is incredibly hard to argue that the right state of mind is important to acquire any sort of habit, skill, or knowledge. However, it does leave out two important cases. 1) Some ethics require us to act morally virtuous regardless of our state of mind. Thus I should not try to act virtuous only when I feel like doing so. Sometimes it is required to act morally virtuous even when one is hungry or had food that causes sad emotions. As a matter of fact, unless one becomes virtuous in all situations of life, it is not a second nature, rather a fragile equilibrium. One bad state of mind and one’s virtues are out the door. It is true that to start off, a conducive physical state is optimal, but after the initial stages, some discomfort becomes necessary to ensure one’s growth.</p>
<p>The second problem with the ‘medicine of the spirit’ is the acquisition of these optimal states. Le Camus’ claims on the food-&gt;inner state link are somewhat dubious in nature, but let’s assume that there is a link. One could state that in this day and age, there are certain pharmaceuticals that will produce the desires state that Le Camus first proposed. Le Camus dealt with known ‘inner-state-changing’ stimuli of his time, environment, food, sleep &amp; movement. Today we could add more items to this list. What if there is a drug X that can get us in this optimal state? Is it therefore desirable to do so?  100 years from now, this list will be even longer than it is now. We might be able to switch certain genes on/off to produce any state including our optimal virtue state. Where does that leave us? Should we pursue these drugs today, these gene modifications 100 years from now to learn to be virtuous? One could argue that if it is medically safe, then why not? But this issue is ignored by Lebreton at this point in time.</p>
<p>Lebreton’s article is immensely informational, from the idea of scientific use of passions to the virtuous circle to the ‘medicine of the spirit’ itself . One can even see how the habit-acquiring nature virtue ethics serves as the precursor of any other ethical school of thought. But there are some serious holes in the idea that the perfect inner state is necessarily beneficial to habit acquisition.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 17:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>noel,
I agree.  The other day I drank three cups of regular coffee (I usually have one cup of decaf a day) and as a result was acting and talking impulsively all day.  I said much that I should not have said and remember at one point trying to bite my tongue even to stop myself from talking.  Needless to say I didn&#039;t succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>noel,<br />
I agree.  The other day I drank three cups of regular coffee (I usually have one cup of decaf a day) and as a result was acting and talking impulsively all day.  I said much that I should not have said and remember at one point trying to bite my tongue even to stop myself from talking.  Needless to say I didn&#8217;t succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: noel</title>
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		<dc:creator>noel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this article very thought-provoking.  In my experience, when I exercise and eat well, my mind is more balanced and my thinking clearer.  When I use my willpower to control my laziness and excessive impulses, I have more self-control in other areas of my life as well. As a result, it is easier to act on my ethical impulses.  I have to be careful however not to use the body/mind connection to abnegate responsibility for my actions.  If I eat too much sugar and as a result I am aggressive towards my spouse, I can&#039;t say that the sugar &quot;made me do it.&quot; I have to take responsibility for my actions by acknowledging that I have an excess of aggression and that I have trampled on my spouse&#039;s rights.  I can however use my understanding of how sugar creates imbalances in my body/mind and increases by susceptibility to acting aggressively to create a plan to eliminate sugar from my diet while acknowledging that excessive aggression is a weak point that I must fight against.  I found The Three Aspects of Practicing article very useful as it provides practical information on how to create a healthy balance in ourselves through increased self-knowledge and and how to maintain the necessary internal energy and motivation to improve. Interesting article...Great site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this article very thought-provoking.  In my experience, when I exercise and eat well, my mind is more balanced and my thinking clearer.  When I use my willpower to control my laziness and excessive impulses, I have more self-control in other areas of my life as well. As a result, it is easier to act on my ethical impulses.  I have to be careful however not to use the body/mind connection to abnegate responsibility for my actions.  If I eat too much sugar and as a result I am aggressive towards my spouse, I can&#8217;t say that the sugar &#8220;made me do it.&#8221; I have to take responsibility for my actions by acknowledging that I have an excess of aggression and that I have trampled on my spouse&#8217;s rights.  I can however use my understanding of how sugar creates imbalances in my body/mind and increases by susceptibility to acting aggressively to create a plan to eliminate sugar from my diet while acknowledging that excessive aggression is a weak point that I must fight against.  I found The Three Aspects of Practicing article very useful as it provides practical information on how to create a healthy balance in ourselves through increased self-knowledge and and how to maintain the necessary internal energy and motivation to improve. Interesting article&#8230;Great site!</p>
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		<title>By: mini rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>mini rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article, but I find some parts controversial; virtues appear at their best in a healthy body/brain/endocrine system/Central nervous system/etc. But not that the opposite is always correct. Example: low blood sugar levels bring the mood down, however, the saints with strong faith have performed lots of fasting with a good mood and with enough energy to attend to do difficult daily chores and social responsibilities! Some parts of the theory appear to me as a vicious circle; if someone does not eat correctly (as a balanced galenic regimen), will the body/mind lack their balance and lose any chance of growing virtues? And the worst someone’s ethics get, the worse the body/mind grows, and so forth…
Maybe knowing how to keep eating balance in life is just one of the virtues that make the development of other ethical virtues easier, not a mandatory prerequisite. When body imbalances are lower, the soul rules with less effort.  
Maybe it depends on the stage and the advancement of the soul too, because it seems that advanced souls can in fact overcome their natural needs easier, until one day they reach total control over their nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article, but I find some parts controversial; virtues appear at their best in a healthy body/brain/endocrine system/Central nervous system/etc. But not that the opposite is always correct. Example: low blood sugar levels bring the mood down, however, the saints with strong faith have performed lots of fasting with a good mood and with enough energy to attend to do difficult daily chores and social responsibilities! Some parts of the theory appear to me as a vicious circle; if someone does not eat correctly (as a balanced galenic regimen), will the body/mind lack their balance and lose any chance of growing virtues? And the worst someone’s ethics get, the worse the body/mind grows, and so forth…<br />
Maybe knowing how to keep eating balance in life is just one of the virtues that make the development of other ethical virtues easier, not a mandatory prerequisite. When body imbalances are lower, the soul rules with less effort.<br />
Maybe it depends on the stage and the advancement of the soul too, because it seems that advanced souls can in fact overcome their natural needs easier, until one day they reach total control over their nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Maya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matfr,
I agree about &quot;brain is the middle man for the body and the soul&quot; 
So if the brain is out of shape the soul can’t communicate effectively which is vital to our activities. 
When your brain is healthy, so is your mind and of course, if your body is healthy so is your brain. If you want to learn easier, keep your brain healthy. What you eat and healthy life style has much to do with how healthy your brain and body are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matfr,<br />
I agree about &#8220;brain is the middle man for the body and the soul&#8221;<br />
So if the brain is out of shape the soul can’t communicate effectively which is vital to our activities.<br />
When your brain is healthy, so is your mind and of course, if your body is healthy so is your brain. If you want to learn easier, keep your brain healthy. What you eat and healthy life style has much to do with how healthy your brain and body are.</p>
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		<title>By: Matfr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think so. The example that comes to my mind is seeing people when they fast. When one doesn&#039;t eat, his/her body becomes weak  therefore the weakness is clearly obvious through his/her state of mind and interactions. Fasting may become a spiritual practice, but one can see that for the majority of the people, developing virtues while they are starving is the least important duty on their mind. Then in my view, the spiritual part of the practice vanishes because one forgets his/her duty. And I believe in this statement: &quot;Everything that produces, surrounds or maintains our body can greatly modify our souls.” (La Médecine de l’esprit, t. 1 p. 179). Because if I believe that my brain is the middle man for the body and the soul and my mind is the result of the brain&#039;s activity, then keeping my brain healthy and keeping my body healthy in order for the brain to function, is my duty. Once a doctor was talking about how the imbalance of the hormones like dopamine or testosterone can change a normal human being to a completely different state. While this change doesn&#039;t happen intentionally and the person is in fact trying to overcome the imbalance mentally, the cause is biological and it should be overcome by an act that targets the bodily imbalance, not the soul. for example maybe a cause for a person to rape another human being, is the imbalance of testosterone. While raping is one of the most vicious and immoral acts, the soul is not directly the cause, but is indirectly responsible because it did not perform its duty toward the body and the cause is biological.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think so. The example that comes to my mind is seeing people when they fast. When one doesn&#8217;t eat, his/her body becomes weak  therefore the weakness is clearly obvious through his/her state of mind and interactions. Fasting may become a spiritual practice, but one can see that for the majority of the people, developing virtues while they are starving is the least important duty on their mind. Then in my view, the spiritual part of the practice vanishes because one forgets his/her duty. And I believe in this statement: &#8220;Everything that produces, surrounds or maintains our body can greatly modify our souls.” (La Médecine de l’esprit, t. 1 p. 179). Because if I believe that my brain is the middle man for the body and the soul and my mind is the result of the brain&#8217;s activity, then keeping my brain healthy and keeping my body healthy in order for the brain to function, is my duty. Once a doctor was talking about how the imbalance of the hormones like dopamine or testosterone can change a normal human being to a completely different state. While this change doesn&#8217;t happen intentionally and the person is in fact trying to overcome the imbalance mentally, the cause is biological and it should be overcome by an act that targets the bodily imbalance, not the soul. for example maybe a cause for a person to rape another human being, is the imbalance of testosterone. While raping is one of the most vicious and immoral acts, the soul is not directly the cause, but is indirectly responsible because it did not perform its duty toward the body and the cause is biological.</p>
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		<title>By: Mat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question based on my understanding reading the entire article and the conclusion at the end of the article:  &quot;Such a medical viewpoint on ethics neither defines the criteria of an ethical act nor the virtues one should develop, but it does draw attention to the fact that ethics begins with a global balance of human life in which mind and body smoothly interact.&quot;
Does it mean in order to be virtuous, one should pay attention to his/her soul as much as s/he pays attention to his/her body through his/her actions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question based on my understanding reading the entire article and the conclusion at the end of the article:  &#8220;Such a medical viewpoint on ethics neither defines the criteria of an ethical act nor the virtues one should develop, but it does draw attention to the fact that ethics begins with a global balance of human life in which mind and body smoothly interact.&#8221;<br />
Does it mean in order to be virtuous, one should pay attention to his/her soul as much as s/he pays attention to his/her body through his/her actions?</p>
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