Comments on: Worlds, interworlds and successive lives http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/worlds-interworlds-and-successive-lives/ Ethics and the process of perfection Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:23:56 +0100 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Eileen http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/worlds-interworlds-and-successive-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-3501 Eileen Sun, 15 May 2011 01:26:06 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=318#comment-3501 The way this article is written frightens me. The comments of the persons who write and emphasize God's compassion calms me. The way this article is written frightens me. The comments of the persons who write and emphasize God’s compassion calms me.

]]> By: star http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/worlds-interworlds-and-successive-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-3227 star Fri, 08 Apr 2011 21:55:25 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=318#comment-3227 @KK Another reason may be if you were the victim of someone's crime, or if your family member suffered at the hands of someone, and you met the criminal in your next life, you could not help but be affected and want some sort of retaliation...so it is a grace that we forget these things because it is like being given the opportunity to do right and NOT seek retaliation... @KK Another reason may be if you were the victim of someone’s crime, or if your family member suffered at the hands of someone, and you met the criminal in your next life, you could not help but be affected and want some sort of retaliation…so it is a grace that we forget these things because it is like being given the opportunity to do right and NOT seek retaliation…

]]> By: Question http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/worlds-interworlds-and-successive-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-3203 Question Tue, 05 Apr 2011 06:12:49 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=318#comment-3203 I have a question regarding the corporeal image: People who perform plastic surgeries; does that change their corporeal image? Can making a plastic surgery make someone happier over there? For example I have a big scar on my forehead from a car accident; it does not bother me in this world that I have this scar, and I even think its cool. But sometimes I think maybe it is going to bother me after I die if it is going to be part of my corporeal image forever. This question asked, I would just mention that I know what determines one's "good looks" over there is other things than here on earth... (for example our characteristics), but still it is question for me. I have a question regarding the corporeal image:
People who perform plastic surgeries; does that change their corporeal image? Can making a plastic surgery make someone happier over there?
For example I have a big scar on my forehead from a car accident; it does not bother me in this world that I have this scar, and I even think its cool. But sometimes I think maybe it is going to bother me after I die if it is going to be part of my corporeal image forever.
This question asked, I would just mention that I know what determines one’s “good looks” over there is other things than here on earth… (for example our characteristics), but still it is question for me.

]]> By: KK http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/worlds-interworlds-and-successive-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-207 KK Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:29:26 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=318#comment-207 If we discovered of our past lives, wouldn't that hinder our process of perfection? Imagine if you were a criminal in your past life. If you knew this, the thought of it would surely hamper your strife for perfection, you would be always thinking of it. However, I'm trying to think of other reasons for the misrecollection of our past lives. What are some other reasons? If we discovered of our past lives, wouldn’t that hinder our process of perfection? Imagine if you were a criminal in your past life. If you knew this, the thought of it would surely hamper your strife for perfection, you would be always thinking of it. However, I’m trying to think of other reasons for the misrecollection of our past lives. What are some other reasons?

]]> By: Zulu http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/worlds-interworlds-and-successive-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-132 Zulu Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:20:14 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=318#comment-132 @LD Yes, I agree with you. You mentioned: “I tend to feel that sort of compassion and empathy naturally most of the time.” This is exactly what I was trying to emphasize. I believe if we are feeling a “natural” compassion and empathy, it isn’t really natural! This is the byproduct of the concept the successive lives. Otherwise I doubt we would be able to show such compassion naturally unless we have developed it. So, enjoy this gift of compassion from God!! ;) On the loss of your colleague, I am sorry to hear that. I believe that “successive lives” is the only rational way to explain injustice in the world, but if we have trust in God we don’t need any explanation. “Successive lives” is an argument and explanation that helps us develop our trust in God. This is exactly what makes Ostad Elahi’s philosophy so interesting to me. Because it is based on comprehending and understanding the divine system rather than a blindfold following. @LD
Yes, I agree with you.
You mentioned: “I tend to feel that sort of compassion and empathy naturally most of the time.” This is exactly what I was trying to emphasize. I believe if we are feeling a “natural” compassion and empathy, it isn’t really natural! This is the byproduct of the concept the successive lives. Otherwise I doubt we would be able to show such compassion naturally unless we have developed it. So, enjoy this gift of compassion from God!! ;)

On the loss of your colleague, I am sorry to hear that. I believe that “successive lives” is the only rational way to explain injustice in the world, but if we have trust in God we don’t need any explanation. “Successive lives” is an argument and explanation that helps us develop our trust in God. This is exactly what makes Ostad Elahi’s philosophy so interesting to me. Because it is based on comprehending and understanding the divine system rather than a blindfold following.

]]> By: LD http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/worlds-interworlds-and-successive-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-128 LD Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:53:01 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=318#comment-128 @Zulu I understand better now. Indeed, it would be harder to feel compassion for the suffering of someone who has "deserved" it. But as you said, unpleasant events are not necessarily the consequence of wrongdoings in past lives. Therefore, regardless of the reason for the suffering, one can't help but be compassionate towards the suffering of others. I tend to feel that sort of compassion and empathy naturally most of the time, but it's difficult to supress the underlying feeling of injustice when I see terrible things happening to innocent people, children and the like. A colleague of mine passed away this week, she was young, in perfectly good health, she was pregnant, had a loving husband and 3 children. And she died, just like that. From what I understand from the principle of successive lives, I know I shouldn't feel sorry for my colleague. But my heart goes out to her husband and children. In the past, I would have thought "but it's not fair! Why does God let bad things happen to good people?!" I now know there is a reason for all this, but it has been quite a challenge to feel nothing but compassion. @Zulu
I understand better now. Indeed, it would be harder to feel compassion for the suffering of someone who has “deserved” it. But as you said, unpleasant events are not necessarily the consequence of wrongdoings in past lives. Therefore, regardless of the reason for the suffering, one can’t help but be compassionate towards the suffering of others.
I tend to feel that sort of compassion and empathy naturally most of the time, but it’s difficult to supress the underlying feeling of injustice when I see terrible things happening to innocent people, children and the like. A colleague of mine passed away this week, she was young, in perfectly good health, she was pregnant, had a loving husband and 3 children. And she died, just like that. From what I understand from the principle of successive lives, I know I shouldn’t feel sorry for my colleague. But my heart goes out to her husband and children. In the past, I would have thought “but it’s not fair! Why does God let bad things happen to good people?!” I now know there is a reason for all this, but it has been quite a challenge to feel nothing but compassion.

]]> By: Mat http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/worlds-interworlds-and-successive-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-127 Mat Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:54:20 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=318#comment-127 If I've understood this right, the purpose of the successive life is for our celestial soul to reach perfection, and every time that a soul is returned to the earthly life, the new body-milieu is given based on what the individual has acquired in previous lives. therefore, the more good deeds the better body-milieu, or even the chances of remaining in the inter-world to continue the spiritual education. Being compassionate to one another is a way of reaching peace within ourselves and adding to our spiritual reserves. At times, it may be difficult to avoid judgement, but if we think of the benefits to the maturity of our soul, and purify our intentions then it will ease up the task. If I’ve understood this right, the purpose of the successive life is for our celestial soul to reach perfection, and every time that a soul is returned to the earthly life, the new body-milieu is given based on what the individual has acquired in previous lives. therefore, the more good deeds the better body-milieu, or even the chances of remaining in the inter-world to continue the spiritual education. Being compassionate to one another is a way of reaching peace within ourselves and adding to our spiritual reserves. At times, it may be difficult to avoid judgement, but if we think of the benefits to the maturity of our soul, and purify our intentions then it will ease up the task.

]]> By: Zulu http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/worlds-interworlds-and-successive-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-125 Zulu Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:24:10 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=318#comment-125 LD, you made an interesting connection between compassion and justice, but my stream of thought was different. Let me explain it: Based on the concept of successive lives there is a disconnection between the action and reaction. For instance if I am facing an unpleasant event in my current life, I can’t connect it to my actions in my previous lives. There are many benefits to this, both social and personal. Before going any further let me say that I believe that an unpleasant event in this life does not necessarily translate to a wrongdoing in a previous life. There might be various different reasons behind an unpleasant event such that it could be educational, help with growth, or a blessing to save one from an impending danger and so on and so forth. But for the sake of argument let’s imagine a person who in his current life is suffering for a terrible crime he committed in his previous life. If I, as an observer, am aware of such connection can I still be genuinely compassionate toward the suffering of that person? It will be extremely hard for me to put aside my judgments and negative feelings and still look at that person as a fellow human being and sympathize with him. And I found this as one of the practical benefits of the concept of successive lives… LD, you made an interesting connection between compassion and justice, but my stream of thought was different. Let me explain it:

Based on the concept of successive lives there is a disconnection between the action and reaction. For instance if I am facing an unpleasant event in my current life, I can’t connect it to my actions in my previous lives. There are many benefits to this, both social and personal.

Before going any further let me say that I believe that an unpleasant event in this life does not necessarily translate to a wrongdoing in a previous life. There might be various different reasons behind an unpleasant event such that it could be educational, help with growth, or a blessing to save one from an impending danger and so on and so forth.

But for the sake of argument let’s imagine a person who in his current life is suffering for a terrible crime he committed in his previous life. If I, as an observer, am aware of such connection can I still be genuinely compassionate toward the suffering of that person? It will be extremely hard for me to put aside my judgments and negative feelings and still look at that person as a fellow human being and sympathize with him. And I found this as one of the practical benefits of the concept of successive lives…

]]> By: LD http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/worlds-interworlds-and-successive-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-116 LD Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:47:07 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=318#comment-116 @Zulu - yes, true compassion and empathy without that underlying feeling of injustice, like there's something terribly wrong with the world. Understanding successive lives has taken away much of the anger and frustration I felt about life, and when faced with an apparent injustice, I now try to "freeze frame" and think: "OK, something's going on here. Stop and think for a moment. What are you supposed to learn from this?". It's my own personal Matrix moment. There is no spoon. :-) @Zulu –
yes, true compassion and empathy without that underlying feeling of injustice, like there’s something terribly wrong with the world.
Understanding successive lives has taken away much of the anger and frustration I felt about life, and when faced with an apparent injustice, I now try to “freeze frame” and think: “OK, something’s going on here. Stop and think for a moment. What are you supposed to learn from this?”. It’s my own personal Matrix moment.
There is no spoon. :-)

]]> By: Blake http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/worlds-interworlds-and-successive-lives/comment-page-1/#comment-109 Blake Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:59:27 +0000 http://www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/?p=318#comment-109 Divine Justice sank in when I understood the concept of successive lives; similar to above comments, this concept set me free and gave me peace and hope and turned me into a happy person. Zulu, now that you mentioned it, I can almost see how it can also help one in becoming compassionate. The thought never crossed my mind. I was very satisfied with what I had understood already. Thanks for taking it to new heights ! Divine Justice sank in when I understood the concept of successive lives; similar to above comments, this concept set me free and gave me peace and hope and turned me into a happy person. Zulu, now that you mentioned it, I can almost see how it can also help one in becoming compassionate. The thought never crossed my mind. I was very satisfied with what I had understood already. Thanks for taking it to new heights !

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